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From: David Matthews
I found your website while researching my father's past for an Ancestry book.
He sailed for Canada (Ottowa) from the Manchester Docks about 2-3 June 1960 as per postmark. His newly married 2nd wife wrote this postcard - presumably on board - and as the Docks would have been Salford Post Mark ? I assume............ date stamped 2 June 1960 Salford Lancs.
They were staying at my Grandmother's house in Salford so I assume they got the Postcards before they sailed ? But the wording says they were on board ?
Can you tell me how many passengers would have traveled on a Cargo Liner of this size, and are there any records of the dates it sailed and arrived, my father was 41 at the time and sadly died at 42 the following June.
David G Matthews
Thank you for your email and thank you for using our web site
You do not give his forename or surname. I have however run a search through the "Looking for Records of Passengers" link, at the head of this page, using in the case of your father the surname Matthews and D.O.B 1919 +/- 2 years. I also ran a second search using his wife's name Morag and Matthews, but no D.O.B. In both cases I used Montréal as the arrival port. This may not be correct though as passengers usually disembarked at the first port of call, which in this case could have been Québec or even Halifax, Nova Scotia if the ship was scheduled for the eastern seaboard ports of the U.S.A. Unfortunately both searches drew a blank and we do not have any records of our own .
These ships carried up to 12 passengers. Regarding the posting of the post card, it was quite normal for mail to be wriitten during the Manchester Ship Canal Transit and have it taken ashore.
ML Hon Webmaster
From: Paul Brooker
Whilst researching my Family tree I came across some badges and buttons(photo attached) from my Great Grandfather John Inigo Pritchard. Most of the buttons are from shipping lines operating out of Liverpool but there are some Manchester Liners. He got his Masters ticket in 1893 but have as yet not found any info as to his service with M.L. (if any).
When I was at school in the 1950's, the mother of a friend used to painstakingly make these badges by hand. I watched her do it, threading each bit of gold wire roll and adding them one at time!
ML Hon Webmaster
From: Keith Smith
Two photos that may be of interest you -both Manchester Progress -Latchford Locks ,Warrington -Circa 1960 -Photo by Ken Smith Warrington
Ken Smith was my late father –I have scanned hundreds of his negatives, many are of Record/ Historical interest to people such as yourself .So you have my permission to use the photos for your collection,--- accredited to Ken Smith Warrington
I have also passed on photos MSC tugs to a colleague of yours who keeps records of other vessels
We had no connection with ML other than watching them sale passed our house on the MSC
PS, It would be interesting if the crewmen on the bow photo could be identified
Do you recognise any of them?
From: Vivian Birkenhead
My father John Sydney Birkenhead was aboard the Manchester Commerce when she was torpedoed. His story was the U Boat came up along side the life boats, the U boat captain asked was there anyone from Liverpool, evidently his mothers family lived in Liverpool, his father was German. He asked would someone take his watch to his family. I cannot recall who offered to do this , my sister thinks it was the captain. Dad was later on two other ships that were torpedoed so I hope I have not mixed up Dad's memories. When Dad was 18 he was aboard the William Tyrell when she was cut in half by the Irish mail ship Cambria on her maiden voyage? In the 1920s he sailed with the Australian Merchant Navy, he returned to UK to see his mother and met his future wife so never returned to live in Australia. I have fulfilled his dream. I hope you find this little story interesting Kind Regards.
Vivian Sydney Birkenhead. Queensland . Australia.
See article on our War & Peace page: www.manchesterliners.co.uk/war.htm#mcrcommerce2b
From: Kim Scratchley
I am researching a Manchester Liners crew member Augustus Earl who was born in Barbados in 1877 and died at sea on the Manchester Division in 1933. Can you shed any more light on Mr. Earl and maybe the circumstances of his death at the age of 56.
Would you have any more details of his wartime service (1914-18) if he was an employee of Manchester Liners during that period.
Thanking you in appreciation
Kim S. Scratchley
Unfortunately we are unable help you in this matter as we do not have records of official crew lists. If you have his details you may find him at:http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/merchantseaman1858-1917.htm?WT.lp=rg-3179 and http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/merchantseamanafter1917.htm
From: Sybil Nunn
Hello, I found your fascinating web page and thank you for all the interesting information there.
My mom and my then infant brother arrived in Manchester on April 20, 1945 on the Manchester Port which I assume is the same as the Manchester Port (3). I am assuming that they left Halifax on April 3, 1945.
I found a map of the convoy on this page: http://www.manchesterliners.co.uk/documents02.html
On that map I can see that the Manchester Port was in position 55. However was it always in that position.
Mom used to tell a story of their ship changing positions in the convoy with another ship and shortly thereafter the other ship was sunk. I see that there were two other ships sunk on this voyage and wondered if more is to be known of what happened.
Best wishes from snowy Nova Scotia
Thank you for your most interesting email and thank you for using our web site and the ship in question is indeed the Manchester Port (3). There is a photograph, by kind permission of the National Maritime Museum, Greenwich, London, of her taken during WWII entering the Manchester Ship Canal at Eastham.
The image of convoy chart for HX348 is reproduced on our web site by kind permission of The Mariners Museum, Newport News, Va USA, http://www.marinersmuseum.org/ . Further information about this convoy to be found at: http://www.uboat.net/ops/convoys/convoys.php?convoy=HX-348 where details of the two casualties can be found. We have no other information regarding this convoy so cannot help you regarding any position changes of the ships.
ML Hon Webmaster
From: Susan Howard
Trying to find some details for my daughters' about their father's time with Manchester Liners, George Collings, d.o.b. 06/11/1947, of Glossop, Derbyshire, my former husband, who has recently passed away.
He joined the 'Liners' as what I think was a deck cadet? Working on the bridge. A particular friend was Roy Sunley (cabin mate)? George joined early 1967 and left mid 1970 to marry and move to Australia.
Thanks in anticipation
Susan Howard (nee Collings).